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Post by Westie on Jul 11, 2020 18:43:03 GMT
I really liked TIS but 70cm is just too short for me.
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Post by dsjr on Jul 12, 2020 9:13:37 GMT
It is for me now, but it really 'works' in an NVA system on all levels, sonic and visual.
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Post by antonio66 on Jul 13, 2020 2:42:53 GMT
It works very well in my brother's system too.
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Post by dsjr on Jul 14, 2020 11:16:07 GMT
What's got my goat about many expensive wires is products like this - www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/audioquest-victoria-audio-cable-with-dbs-review.14683/I apologise for ruffling feathers, but one reason I may play the old-timer bit is because in my times in this industry, I've seen so many times the situation of thinking up a problem that isn't there and then marketing a 'cure' for it, often at large expense. Subsequent comments about cable risers and such like, hanging and tensioning the cables up like guitar strings (they have to be taut apparently). Amir did make a serious comment about when trying 'new' components in one's stereo, our brains go into overdrive, noticing all manner of differences and 'details' which were there before, but which we didn't notice. Going back after usually confirms it. Happens to me with cars, when a different car takes a while to get used to and when returning to the one you used before, it feels totally different for a short while until you get back used to it. Sorry for the clumsy words here, but some of you may have experienced it possibly.
Come back Mark Grant, all is forgiven. I can transform one of his HD1000 interconnects to 'high end' simply by adding a clip-on ferrite at one end  |
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Post by Westie on Jul 14, 2020 13:42:23 GMT
What's got my goat about many expensive wires is products like this - www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/audioquest-victoria-audio-cable-with-dbs-review.14683/I apologise for ruffling feathers, but one reason I may play the old-timer bit is because in my times in this industry, I've seen so many times the situation of thinking up a problem that isn't there and then marketing a 'cure' for it, often at large expense. Subsequent comments about cable risers and such like, hanging and tensioning the cables up like guitar strings (they have to be taut apparently). Amir did make a serious comment about when trying 'new' components in one's stereo, our brains go into overdrive, noticing all manner of differences and 'details' which were there before, but which we didn't notice. Going back after usually confirms it. Happens to me with cars, when a different car takes a while to get used to and when returning to the one you used before, it feels totally different for a short while until you get back used to it. Sorry for the clumsy words here, but some of you may have experienced it possibly. Come back Mark Grant, all is forgiven. I can transform one of his HD1000 interconnects to 'high end' simply by adding a clip-on ferrite at one end Audioquest cables need all the help they can get lol. I’ve never heard anything that has been above “dismal”. I’m making a battery out of a potato and linking all my cables up to it. I agree about being asked to notice differences. It messes with your head. I’ve also found it to be an unreliable method of choosing kit. Just living with something will tell you if it satisfies you or not. |
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Post by dsjr on Jul 14, 2020 15:59:46 GMT
I just have memories told on other forums years ago about experiences with Klotz MC5000 and MG HD1500 cables both either bought new (MG) and made up (Klotz). The MG had Neutrik pro RCS's (disliked in the audiophile fraternity I gather although I don't know why) and neutrik 1.4" jacks at the 'far' end and the Klotz had the 'Star' RCA plugs at the source and the same Neutrik jacks at t'other. My Crown preamp has two sets of outputs both absolutely identical and these cables were driving the bridged Crown power amps for speakers and a third identical amp for headphones (25k input impedance so halve that for the load as seen by the preamp).
Initially on headphones, I thought/imagined a slight difference between the cables, as they were easy to swap around with basically phone jacks at one end. The MG cable seemed slightly 'crisper' and the Klotz slightly 'plump' or 'rounded' (tiny difference though). I swapped the cables around every so often without comparing but in any case, the music went through them both at the same time even with one amp set switched off.After six months or so, I did the comparison again - volume untouched - and I'm damned if I could hear any difference frankly. I think my ears were as ok as usual on both occasions (it's one ear that gums up and then headphone listening is impossible!). Anyway, adding a pair of tightly clipped on ferrites on the MG cables made it totally impossible to tell any subjective difference at all, when before, I felt the MG cables could sound slightly 'stark' (I have standard RCA cables too). Mark Grant has changed the cable slightly since mine, so no idea how they're doing now.
Something I DO agree with Antonio about, is the fact that the gear itself makes a bigger difference (once a basic cable standard is reached?)and here, I have found for myself that most well performing amps of similar power output are difficult to tell apart (I'd love to find out why Chord's amps sound so incredibly controlled, dry and precise, yet equivalent Naims even today, sound bass-boppy, brightly lit if not actually 'clearer' and rather more forceful in the upper mids).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 20:07:33 GMT
I'm starting to show some respect for Amir from the Audio Science Review Forum. That guy can save many people from making expensive buying mistakes.
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