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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 17:41:42 GMT
What would you personally change about the vinyl LP package?
Never the brainwave of a Gatefold Sleeves just continue creating single sleeve.
No Double or more so no triple LP's which wouldnt happen anyway with a standard single sleeve.
All sleeves face side remained laminated, back side not & ofc Back flap construction.
I don't mind live LP's but they are generally concockted from different venues, which i wish they would not do but i guess it really needs a double LP to benefit from that so im in two minds with em.
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Post by classicrock on Jan 2, 2023 18:34:09 GMT
I wish they would spend as much on pressing quality as they do on fancy packaging.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 3, 2023 18:47:06 GMT
Just kill this mid-fi bloody format  And also employ and train digital mastering engineers to do a bloody good job and to tell the record company execs to 'sod off and stop interfering' (but in stronger language!). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 19:00:47 GMT
Needs to be some sort of standardisation with levels & monitors. I have a lot of Records that sound absolutely superb even though they are digital source, a real pleasure to listen & some are just plain shouty shit.
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Post by Westie on Jan 3, 2023 19:20:05 GMT
Nothing sounds bad on any format to me, but I’ve got a different system, ears, room and music content. The last one is probably the biggest one. I don’t have any music pre-mid 80s and most is far more recent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 19:42:14 GMT
Nothing sounds bad on any format to me, but I’ve got a different system, ears, room and music content. The last one is probably the biggest one. I don’t have any music pre-mid 80s and most is far more recent. Surely you have some new LP that have a lot of vinyl roar, where as some are quiet? Same with some new LPs that have splashy cymbals some not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 19:48:40 GMT
Some people always come out with the same old easy Bull shite reply, just use CD or files. Well im afraid there is absolutely zero attachment to a CD or a file exactly the same with a physical Book Vs an E Book. Its not the physical media being a record that is the issue it how some have been created that is the problem. If some new records can sound great & some no so, there is obviously a problem with the collective creators of medicore sounding product.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 19:53:00 GMT
Nothing sounds bad on any format to me, but I’ve got a different system, ears, room and music content. The last one is probably the biggest one. I don’t have any music pre-mid 80s and most is far more recent. Are you then saying everything you listen to is recorded in the Digital age? Im the reverse, Nothing i listen to was recorded in the digital age. |
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Post by Westie on Jan 3, 2023 20:50:00 GMT
I hadn’t thought about it but I think it probably is, with only a handful of exceptions, and they are easy-going stuff such as The Eagles. Hardly likely to sound bad on anything, now I come to think about it more. None of the music I listen to is particularly complex or challenging either, so that’s probably another factor. The stuff I listen to would probably sound okay through any system. I hadn’t realised that before.
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Post by Westie on Jan 3, 2023 20:58:44 GMT
Nothing sounds bad on any format to me, but I’ve got a different system, ears, room and music content. The last one is probably the biggest one. I don’t have any music pre-mid 80s and most is far more recent. Surely you have some new LP that have a lot of vinyl roar, where as some are quiet? Same with some new LPs that have splashy cymbals some not. Honestly all my vinyl is as silent as CD from my listening position. I don’t tend to hear anything even between tracks. The only thing I tend to hear is a soft repeating click at the end of the record. I do remember other experiences of vinyl noise but not in decades. I found some decks much worse than others in this respect. The Xerxes and the Transrotor are the quietest decks I’ve had. The LP12 was always worse and the Rock was worse again for noise. Again, it’s been so long since I’ve heard vinyl noise, I’d not really thought about it as a factor. I’m not sure how significant it is, but I’ve had no static in a very long time either. It always seemed to accompany vinyl noise IIRC. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 21:49:37 GMT
The noise is not due to the deck or the Cartridge because some pressings are very quiet. What i should point out is Headphone listening that you probably don't do with your Vinyl, but headphones or not it doesnt alter the fact that some records have splashy cymbals some don't. I mentioned awhile back that my intentions for headphone listening was a CD player in the other room, but i just cannot live without Vinyl. its too much of an attachment to me, i feel like i have nothing if it were just CD only.Suppose records are what they are imperfect, i also have to accept that they are carelessly produced.
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Post by classicrock on Jan 4, 2023 17:29:49 GMT
Nothing sounds bad on any format to me, but I’ve got a different system, ears, room and music content. The last one is probably the biggest one. I don’t have any music pre-mid 80s and most is far more recent. What about 'loudness wars' mastering on modern CDs? I'm sure you find that annoying. It does explain partly the vinyl resurgence. Fortunately most CD music I listen to is not so badly affected or was mastered up to the mid 90s, and 90% is vinyl listening. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 17:51:41 GMT
I like the richness of 1st issues but compared to a CD they are worlds apart sound wise. I wont deny i like the sound from CD but i cannot live with them, Zero attachment & because of that i cannot settle, but New vinyl does indeed suffer the loudness issues just as any digital source. I have to use vintage equipment in ways to try overcome the effects of these issues.
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Post by Westie on Jan 4, 2023 19:32:50 GMT
Nothing sounds bad on any format to me, but I’ve got a different system, ears, room and music content. The last one is probably the biggest one. I don’t have any music pre-mid 80s and most is far more recent. What about 'loudness wars' mastering on modern CDs? I'm sure you find that annoying. It does explain partly the vinyl resurgence. Fortunately most CD music I listen to is not so badly affected or was mastered up to the mid 90s, and 90% is vinyl listening. I’m not really aware of it. I think I may just be buying CDs that aren’t really affected. I just don’t buy pop or rock music, so that probably helps. I’m also not really into anything loud or cacophonous. The most racy my tastes get are Yello and Santana lol. |
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