Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 11:09:15 GMT
Utter utter garbage with no direction what so ever. What i get totally cheesed of with is the masses of solo artists.
|
|
|
|
Post by Westie on Sept 20, 2020 11:38:28 GMT
Utter utter garbage with no direction what so ever. What i get totally cheesed of with is the masses of solo artists. Bizarrely I was just thinking of this yesterday, As I have said I’m not a Rock music fan, but out of probably 8-900 albums I only own a handful of things from bands. I just don’t like all that noise they make. |
|
|
|
Post by Westie on Sept 20, 2020 11:43:42 GMT
If I discount my wife’s ABBA and Take That CDs, it’s only 11 bands.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 12:18:46 GMT
Utter utter garbage with no direction what so ever. What i get totally cheesed of with is the masses of solo artists. Bizarrely I was just thinking of this yesterday, As I have said I’m not a Rock music fan, but out of probably 8-900 albums I only own a handful of things from bands. I just don’t like all that noise they make. Another reason i love Vintage Hi-Fi. I can tolerate electric guitars where i cannot from a modern High resolution system. |
|
|
|
Post by classicrock on Sept 20, 2020 12:55:17 GMT
Few can play guitar, just strummers. One exception is Laura Marling - her output is top notch but more folk than rock. Of course there is PJ Harvey but she has gone away from guitar driven music of late. The US rock bands are totally bland crap and the UK ones more pop or electronic. Radiohead are still worth a listen if you are prepared to make the effort. Another band that have some merit are Doves who reformed recently. Most of the decent artists go back to the 90s at least. Another still making good music is Nick Cave - gets better with age. There isn't a lot that qualifies as proper rock these days. Still quite a few old bands still going but not like they were in their heyday. I would also suggest check out Steve Wilson's releases (ex Porcupine Tree and responsible for the KC remixes). A couple of female solo artists with prog connections worth mentioning (first albums recently) are Louisa Patricia Crane and Ms Amy Birks.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 22:33:08 GMT
I have a great deal of problem with Drummers these days. Gone was the time of great skill of odd & constant changing time signatures. Too skill full to ask for these days i guess.
|
|
|
|
Post by stevielad on Oct 3, 2020 16:49:48 GMT
There's still some great music out there. You just need to open your ears and your mind and listen.
Of the current crop, Lana Del Rey stands head and shoulders above everyone for me. I'd walk 50 miles in my wife's high-heels to listen to her perform. Her suite of tracks on the first side of the 'Norman Fucking Rockwell' album is as good as anything ever committed to vinyl.
Classicrock makes mention of Laura Marling. She's absolutely brilliant, and would have broken through at any time. Her co-piloted 'Lump' album was a highlight of the last few years. Amazing recent albums have been released by the likes of Beck, The Flaming Lips and Chuck Prophet, just to name a few.
It's definitely out there Matey.....just take a look. And listen.
|
|
|
|
Post by stevielad on Oct 3, 2020 16:51:03 GMT
Add 'Fleld Music' to the list too. Fucking brilliant. And a decent drummer to boot.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 20:56:39 GMT
Impossible to have the same skills of playing as back in the early 70's cos those days are gone.. Instruments too mate, they sound different as do recordings & Sound Engineering
|
|
|
|
Post by classicrock on Oct 5, 2020 20:32:58 GMT
I have a great deal of problem with Drummers these days. Gone was the time of great skill of odd & constant changing time signatures. Too skill full to ask for these days i guess. This I saw mentioned on a youtube song analysis video. Everyone works to click tracks now to get perfection so you lose the natural / live feel and variations that make music interesting. Pro tools is the other big factor. No coincidence that the decline in recorded music was rapid from about 20 years ago when pro tools were widely adopted. |
|
|
|
Post by dsjr on Oct 6, 2020 15:18:21 GMT
Impossible to have the same skills of playing as back in the early 70's cos those days are gone.. Instruments too mate, they sound different as do recordings & Sound Engineering I'm certain it's a factor of our ages now too. I think playing skills may still survive in jazz circles and at the highest level and not the avant garde stuff, you can get carried along with the musical 'conversation' that the musicians have with each other. Not my genre, but I've been to many jazz gigs in my time and the talent there was amazing.
In regards to drummers, many great rock drummers were way better than just keeping time (a difficult enough thing as it is I gather) and many, like Ian Paice, put neat little fills in every so often to remind us how good he is... Phil Collins was another, using his part-time band Brand X to show some more of his skills off (they were brilliant live in the late 70's).
Is there nothing on Later with Jools that's of any interest Andr'e?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 16:54:12 GMT
No Nothing Dave.
Agree. You can hear a lot of skill in Collins drumming with BRAND X than GENESIS, but BRAND X were a Jazz/Fusion band that requires skill, its the nature of the music.. Most real drummers back then were Jazz Trained & took inspiration from the masters. You only have to watch BUDDY RICH, I can clearly see CARL PALMER in there.
|
|
|
|
Post by dsjr on Oct 6, 2020 17:10:15 GMT
I'm a fan of the late Pierre Moerlen, but Buddy Rich is/was something else entirely...
One other drummer before I shut it... Ginger Baker - OK, another oldie and a rather unpleasant character at times it seems - many vids of him playing this, but the discipline in his playing despite his health here -
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 18:32:53 GMT
Ginger Baker took his influence from Jazz & Blues, hes an early modern drummer tho from back in the early 60's Alexis Corner days.. He used a double Bass drums since early on. He uses one side to time & the other side to fill in.He also lays his kit out so the drums are totally flat, Bill Bruford also did the same with his Drum layout.. He was very interested in the people in villages around Africa & how they drummed taking all this onboard. Hes gone now tho. I used to have a big collection of 1970's International Musician Magazine that used to do massive indepth articles on top musicians, Instruments & Technology they used at the time..  |
|
