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Post by No.6 on May 2, 2021 20:57:50 GMT
What is it with sellers that are always claiming what they use are the best when they are clearly rubbish. You want a Record mailer made from strong card that will take a side impact no problem. This is the area that most fail, cheap corrogated card is also junk because it lets the record sleeve flex enough to assist cover creasing & easy card puncture. Be wary of sellers that come out with things like i add extra stiffeners & bubble wrap. Why because they know ful well mailers aint upto the job. A massive no to bubble wrap, this alone causes corner of the sleeve compression, LP sleeves being so fragile these days. These are the best ever mailer ive used. shop.lilpackaging.com/products/clp |
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2021 15:01:43 GMT
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Post by No.6 on May 6, 2021 15:14:43 GMT
Envolope mailers are totally shit the card stiffeners they put inside them are waste of time. Those mailers do not deal with corner inpact as you have noticed. I grill seller about packaging, they say Envolope mailers i dont bother.
Can you now see why i always belly ache about it. & the Fragile tape is no use nor ornament.
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Post by No.6 on May 6, 2021 15:18:12 GMT
Can you see how these mailers would have saved that record from corner impact, you have at least a inch crumple zone on each corner.  |
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2021 15:24:18 GMT
Can you see how these mailers would have saved that record from corner impact, you have at least a inch crumple zone on each corner. Absolutely! I’ve had three consecutive albums in those exact mailers. All fine. One today in a shoddy one and it’s wrecked, These people sell records fir a living, you’d think they would get it. |
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2021 15:26:31 GMT
We can’t be the only two people in the world getting these issues. What do others do, I wonder? Just accept it? More fool them. Imagine buying a new car and seeing arrive with a pranged front wing?
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Post by No.6 on May 6, 2021 15:31:50 GMT
I think you be suprised how many just put up with bad corners. The Mailers are too expensive thats why they dont use them. Its a wonder you aint had the bollox excuse being a cardboard shortage leading them to buy in what they can, load of cobblers. Now when you moan about the damage too many just ignore your messages cos they know profit is well & truly down the drain. Utterly conterproductive for them to use shit mailers.
Don't know about you but im more than happy to pay another couple quid if i knew they were to use those good mailers over the cheap. Just done it yesterday with that Jethro Tull LP, £5 postage but i know its gonna to arrive in the condition it was sent.
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Post by No.6 on May 6, 2021 15:35:17 GMT
We can’t be the only two people in the world getting these issues. What do others do, I wonder? Just accept it? More fool them. Imagine buying a new car and seeing arrive with a pranged front wing? Anyone in their right mind would not put up with it. Bumped corner equates to lost value straight away. Besides if its new you paid for perfect, 2nd hand record you paid for the grading you expect. |
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2021 16:29:16 GMT
I think you be suprised how many just put up with bad corners. The Mailers are too expensive thats why they dont use them. Its a wonder you aint had the bollox excuse being a cardboard shortage leading them to buy in what they can, load of cobblers. Now when you moan about the damage too many just ignore your messages cos they know profit is well & truly down the drain. Utterly conterproductive for them to use shit mailers. Don't know about you but im more than happy to pay another couple quid if i knew they were to use those good mailers over the cheap. Just done it yesterday with that Jethro Tull LP, £5 postage but i know its gonna to arrive in the condition it was sent. Too right. I’d rather pay more and get a decent record. I know I’d not be happy with this. If they want to give me half back, I will keep as a spare and order another from someone who uses proper mailers. |
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2021 21:28:17 GMT
We can’t be the only two people in the world getting these issues. What do others do, I wonder? Just accept it? More fool them. Imagine buying a new car and seeing arrive with a pranged front wing? Anyone in their right mind would not put up with it. Bumped corner equates to lost value straight away. Besides if its new you paid for perfect, 2nd hand record you paid for the grading you expect. I returned it and paid £2 more for one sent in a proper mailer. |
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Post by No.6 on May 6, 2021 21:37:14 GMT
Im kinda in a stalemate with the handful of records i need, finding it very hard locating Mint/Mint copies not to mention the usual piss taker extortionate asking prices.  |
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Post by Westie on May 7, 2021 8:10:40 GMT
Anyone in their right mind would not put up with it. Bumped corner equates to lost value straight away. Besides if its new you paid for perfect, 2nd hand record you paid for the grading you expect. I returned it and paid £2 more for one sent in a proper mailer. If I was using decent mailers, I’d be writing it LARGE across all my sales listings. People typically just go for the cheapest listing but I reckon anyone with even half a brain would pay an extra £ or two for a pretty much guaranteed safe delivery. |
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Post by classicrock on May 7, 2021 10:02:32 GMT
I reuse Amazon mailers so doesn't cost anything. However I've had one or two Amazon deliveries in soft bags which have had damage. At least easy to return. The thing that has me most pissed at moment is a couple faulty pressings from Acoustic Sounds in USA. They will provide replacement discs no trouble but because of the UK VAT and them not registered yet have to spend another £135 ($190) as they will only send them with another order. The records in question are worth over $100 plus import charges. That means spending $190 plus around $50 postage plus duty. I knew the policy but previous order had to be only $49 I think which is less than one 45 rpm double Analog Productions title. Finding titles I actually want that aren't back ordered adds to the frustration.
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Post by No.6 on May 7, 2021 12:35:00 GMT
Thats the whole reason i used Amazon for most the records i bought, the easy return process. But yes i has a few in just a grey poly bag that got wrecked, also had one just hand delivered with nothing at all, amazingly no damage.Im now on the last hand full of LP's that i have to buy 2nd hand because there is no re-issues. This is the hardest hurdle getting over liar sellers & the packaging issues.
I kept back all my Amazon mailers as i sold on most the old pressing that i bought replacements. Came in hand & arrived with the customers with no issues
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Post by No.6 on May 7, 2021 12:37:49 GMT
Very tempting to expand this small collection but i said i would keep it small & only my most fav bands. Just have enough room now for the VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR catalogue when they get re-issued. To buy these 2nd hand is crazy prices even for the 2nd pressings & im certainly not going to fork out to sell them again when the re-issues appear so im kinda stumped with VDGG at the mo.
The '68-71' compilation im 99.9% will not get re-issued so im out for that but even with this a M/M you can pay quite a lot. I want it for completeness but theres also a non album track : "THE BOAT OF A MILLION YEARS" on it which is my fav VDGG track of all time.
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