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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 0:03:38 GMT
I find im constantly starting these Vinyl moaning topics.
I often wonder if Vinyl these days is a Joke or things are made with other sales agendas at play. Because i get increasingly pissed off at the amount of Coloured vinyl pressings, Bull shit limited pressings, now we seem to have a lot of Picture discs, for heaven sake these are unplayable by default LOL. Not to mention the embarrassment of owning such things.
When it comes to pressing albums that have not seen the light of day for 40/50 years that will probably never get another, to be issued on coloured vinyl just makes me see red it really does. Its ok people saying well they sound good, That's not the point with me, its the principle of. Is it novelty you want or a serious record, cos im almost certain that's all vinyl is these days A NOVELTY. Cos i know full well that a lot of people buy records with no intention playing them, some don't even own a record player.
Regarding Prog, There is a handful of Bootleg Labels that need getting rid of for good & until we get those obscure albums on a good quality official release on black vinyl we wont get shut of them. So stop wasting the opportunity with shite colour vinyl releases of those particular fuzzies
Tonight i was browsing for some records. I must have come across at least twenty 1970's Italian Progressive LP's every single one pressed on Limited edition coloured vinyl.
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Post by Westie on Jan 10, 2022 9:52:17 GMT
I find im constantly starting these Vinyl moaning topics. I often wonder if Vinyl these days is a Joke or things are made with other sales agendas at play. Because i get increasingly pissed off at the amount of Coloured vinyl pressings, Bull shit limited pressings, now we seem to have a lot of Picture discs, for heaven sake these are unplayable by default LOL. Not to mention the embarrassment of owning such things. When it comes to pressing albums that have not seen the light of day for 40/50 years that will probably never get another, to be issued on coloured vinyl just makes me see red it really does. Its ok people saying well they sound good, That's not the point with me, its the principle of. Is it novelty you want or a serious record, cos im almost certain that's all vinyl is these days A NOVELTY. Cos i know full well that a lot of people buy records with no intention playing them, some don't even own a record player. Regarding Prog, There is a handful of Bootleg Labels that need getting rid of for good & until we get those obscure albums on a good quality official release on black vinyl we wont get shut of them. So stop wasting the opportunity with shite colour vinyl releases of those particular fuzzies Tonight i was browsing for some records. I must have come across at least twenty 1970's Italian Progressive LP's every single one pressed on Limited edition coloured vinyl. I don’t understand coloured vinyl or any other marketing nonsense. It spoils the experience. If they absolutely must do it, then produce the “vanilla” variety for normal people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 11:17:56 GMT
I think the multi coloured shite is to get rid of the bits of coloured vinyl pellets they have surplus, im almost sure of it. Never seen anything look so rank as those things. They make me feel dizzy looking at them.
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Post by classicrock on Jan 10, 2022 11:49:04 GMT
It's people at labels thinking they will sell more to collectors. I suppose it's the source and mastering that counts more but much coloured vinyl is noisier. Some of the colours are pretty putrid. They seem to be able to do any variation asked for now so I don't think it's got anything to do with surplus pellets. Pressing plants do what they are asked for but I see that some push the colours they can do on their web sites. I think there always should be a standard black version for those who are serious about playing the music. Fortunately I'm not often forced to buy a coloured version for the titles I want. RSD I think is the biggest culprit. There was one recent instance were the black vinyl was so badly pressed I took a punt on the coloured vinyl with a splodge. That was the latest Lump (Laura Marling) release. This was better than the black pressing in terms of quality and also had cheaper pricing due to simpler packaging.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 12:58:41 GMT
Im fine with a Black version as well as a coloured. Another one of my pet hates that equally stops me buying a record & that's the addition of bonus tracks, not only does that take the original album layout away it also worsens sound quality. I have two coloured Vinyl in the 'to take to the record shop' box, Glad to see the back of them. I have the first YES album on a recent re-issue which i think is MOV. The record store day one was not only coloured vinyl, sounded so shit i was forced to buy this MOV 2LP version. As soon as another proper pressing comes out its history. I also have a MARILLION 'CLUTCHING AT STRAWS' on a 2LP edition, no bonus tracks & does run at 33.3rpm but they put it out as a double for some reason. Sounds fine but its history when it gets re-issued as a single. Inconvenience as well as not how it was originally intended. I don't like doubles as it is & certainly don't have time for triples, i don't even play triples because they are so inconvenient. The latest PETE SINFIELD - STILL has both Pink & a Black Vinyl which is how it should be however they had to go spoil it adding two bonus track, because of that i wont buy it  I basically want a record as close to the originals as possible. A lot have made a very good effort at this so there is no excuse at all. I wont stand for: Coloured Vinyl Bonus track editions Releases that come in single sleeves when they should be gate fold Stupid labels that look like someone cut a circle out of a CD cover & stuck it on the centre of the record. Releases that are 33.3rpm cut as 45rpm. Don't give a rats arse about the Audiophile aspect of that. |
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Post by baggs on Jan 10, 2022 14:16:00 GMT
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Post by dsjr on Jan 10, 2022 15:13:20 GMT
A local auction shop has racks of LP's, the sleeves not in pristine condition. I can't believe the prices asked for titles I take for granted - utter madness - (my wife and son are going to make a mint when I'm gone, despite me all but giving away a couple of hundred LP's twenty years back. Not sure the CD's will be worth anything currently... Still looking for the original plum label led Zep III and IV which I'm certain I moved here with and fairly certain didn't go in the cull back then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 16:15:40 GMT
Dave those 2014/15 LED ZEP sound very good. Plumbs are not always what they are cracked up to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 16:34:09 GMT
I must have looked at at least twenty different outlets & all are selling the Pink Vinyl edition of SINFIELD 'STILL' all obviously have the same mentality. Makes my ferkin' blood boil. When you do find a black vinyl edition its £10 more expensive. btw the labels look shit done bear any resemblance to the MANTICORE label. BMG made the present ELP labels look like the old MANTICORE label.
Or is it just me expecting too much from this modern two bit industry?
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Post by dsjr on Jan 10, 2022 17:10:21 GMT
Dave those 2014/15 LED ZEP sound very good. Plumbs are not always what they are cracked up to be. I know, but they were original pressings and jackets I had - and I expect if I did let them go it's because of the sound... I don't need them on vinyl at all, but the memories of how I got these two remain (half a bloody century ago now - IV from HMV Oxford St just after it came out and III from a school pal shortly after). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 17:12:46 GMT
Believe me if i had the money and the ability to buy a totally mint 1st issue i would every time. You know my feeling about modern pressings, some do sound very good but as a whole they are just shite to me.
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Post by stevielad on Jan 11, 2022 14:49:39 GMT
I've got to be honest, I really like these coloured vinyl releases. Some of the RSD releases have been great, and out of a fair amount bought over recent years I can only think of two shit sounding releases, and they'd most likely have been shit on black vinyl too. They've been mainly good. They seem to command higher prices amongst collectors too.
I'd obviously prefer to own original releases, but when that's insanely impossible due the high prices involved a coloured vinyl version works fine for me. An accurate copy is still a copy, no matter what.
I just don't get it about the myth surrounding the sound quality of modern coloured vinyl's. After all, vinyl as a material is naturally clear anyway and black, just as any other colour, is a pigment that's added. So be it black, blue, purple or fooking banana-bollox coloured, it shouldn't make a jot of difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 14:54:34 GMT
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Post by Westie on Jan 11, 2022 14:57:30 GMT
I’ve heard a lot of talk about it being noisier but I only own one double album on grey vinyl and I’ve only played one side so far. It was silent on first play but I’m not really able to comment from first hand experience. I must admit to preferring records to look like records and not novelties. Those transparent orange and yellow jobbies I remember as a teen were horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 13:13:39 GMT
This is one of the label sides from the recent re-press of COLOSSEUM 'LIVE' fuzzy from 1971. This crap does my head in. What is up with the BRONZE records label like they done on the URIAH HEEP's? Utter waste of a chance to own a fresh copy once again.  |
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