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Post by baggs on Feb 24, 2022 23:56:33 GMT
Andre:
you gots good musical taste and knos all the obscurities.
Can you think anything (late 60s-70s) that might have gone under the radar of EVEN A PROGMASTERMAN like myself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 14:04:02 GMT
Aint got the energy to Think Baggs. Ter boring fer Karney-boyo these days.Prog betrayed Karney-boyo not having the power to control the Industry whims leaving Karns high & dry with no Vinyl for such Obscurities Karney lad once loved. Industry believe that Re-issuing Obscure prog all proper on Vinyl is bad move no cutter to be made for greedy moguls, but the fools are very wrong, in reflection of what originals sell for say £22 for a top quality Re-issue people will jump at it. Obscure Prog as it is today did not sell well in the day, not because it was crap but beacuse the promotion of it was pathetic. Its not that great these days but at least today the power of the internet does such things all on its own.
Take for instance the first four GENTLE GIANT LP's. Those recent re-issue sold out straight away, They wernt even what you call low price either. Shame the label designs were shite.
Those two well know Bootleg Labels need putting out of buisness for good but untill we get real good all proper Re-issues from lagit source those fuckkers will still keep bootlegging.
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Post by baggs on Mar 13, 2022 23:52:36 GMT
Andre: maybe you can help me. I'm trying to figure out early media or record sleeve mentions of the words "progressive rock". (like first Caravan issued Oct '68....back sleeve.) Now there were two V.A. sampler lps of Deram label. I have the one called "Golden Pops" which is groups like Move,Moodies and Procol (but also Cat Stevens!) I'm trying to recall the other one. I think it was called something along the lines of "Deram World of Progressive Rock"  ? (both had beautiful cover arts) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 6:27:22 GMT
It was called 'WOWIE ZOWIE' THE WORLD OF PROGRESSIVE MUSIC. I used to have a French Deram Comp called 'DERAM IS A DREAM COME TRUE'
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Post by baggs on Mar 14, 2022 12:56:37 GMT
Orlroight!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 14:45:46 GMT
Yew wants this mi Bruvver, Ozzy comp. Simular lines to our VERTIGO ANNUAL with Horse & Naked bird but noras goowd cos Brits do best er everfink fuzzy wise loike  |
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Post by baggs on Mar 14, 2022 16:24:15 GMT
nOVA SAMPLER?
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Post by baggs on Mar 14, 2022 16:59:47 GMT
"the first acknowledged mention of the word "progressive" linked to music was by a BRITISH magazine '66"
Any idea Andre?
"progressive " in '66 would have to be used as a descriptor (not a movement) like saying jazz being progressive way back when.
'66 cannot be any semblance of prog rock. If anything it was embryonic psych - 13 Floor Elevators,Id,Deep.
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Post by baggs on Mar 14, 2022 17:00:10 GMT
"the first acknowledged mention of the word "progressive" linked to music was by a BRITISH magazine '66"
Any idea Andre?
"progressive " in '66 would have to be used as a descriptor (not a movement) like saying jazz being progressive way back when.
'66 cannot be any semblance of prog rock. If anything it was embryonic psych - 13 Floor Elevators,Id,Deep.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 17:20:00 GMT
"the first acknowledged mention of the word "progressive" linked to music was by a BRITISH magazine '66" Any idea Andre? "progressive " in '66 would have to be used as a descriptor (not a movement) like saying jazz being progressive way back when. '66 cannot be any semblance of prog rock. If anything it was embryonic psych - 13 Floor Elevators,Id,Deep. I used to have a set of IT [International Times] Papers, the word Progressive was used in there in the 60's. Heres the NOVA LP www.popsike.com/NOVA-SAMPLER-Egg-Aardvark-Galliard-UK-PROG-D-DECCA-70/400064395959.htmlI think we can safely say the Progressive was Pretty much a thing by 1969 However Keith Emerson & the Nice 2nd fuzzy [LONG FOR YOUR ARSE, VITA BREVIS - 1968] was Progressive |
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Post by baggs on Mar 19, 2022 17:05:39 GMT
I posted this to Reddit prog forum. Wot yew fink, droog?
Caravan first album
This is likely the first lp to have mention of "progressive rock " on the sleeve.
The word "progressive" shows up 3 times.
But is the music really nascent prog rock? Can you say it beats out "Court of Crimson King"? Or is the word used merely as an adjective - meaning something like "improvement" or going in another unexplored direction.
Not sure I'm hearing embryonic prog here. If it is, its HAPPY prog - not the usual template.
Something like "Policeman" sounds toytown popsike to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 17:16:37 GMT
The problem with early prog is the slow crossing over of bands, some moved faster than others, Some didnt quite fit into it, i think this is why we got strange pigeon holes by the press like 'Canterbury' that pened a certain sound to its own still carrying the mother title 'PROGRESSIVE'. But Who says what true PROG signature is suppose to sound? Well i suppose we have to go by the majority of people that you would hit with the Question, I can safely guess they would come up with GENESIS, YES, ELP off the top of their heads, they would also most probably mention the stage antics of these bands. I personally know what constitutes prog that i think is prog.
I personally don't thing Caravan furt LP carries what i deem Prog, same can be said for Floyd, Hawkwind, Gong those are also non Prog to me.
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Post by baggs on Mar 20, 2022 22:23:33 GMT
A difficult one for Perms The Karner:
tracks where you can hear the whoosh-whoosh of the Leslie speakers spinning
Kin Ping Meh - Mrs Holmes
Uriah Heep - the first live (I forget exactly where)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 22:35:28 GMT
RARE BIRD 'FLIGHT' (AS YOUR MIND FLIES BY) You'll hear it about 10:00 in.
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