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Post by dsjr on May 27, 2022 17:14:24 GMT
So, it all comes out - possibly.. Records cut from CD's I kid you not and an SME S2 Improved arm with Stanton cartridge (681EEE at one time) used for playing back the acetate on a test cut... And people still pay twenty to thirty quid a shot for LP's...
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Post by Westie on May 27, 2022 19:53:10 GMT
The Crossley brigade won’t care lol. I don’t know how any “engineer” has the cheek to do this though.
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Post by classicrock on May 28, 2022 10:11:27 GMT
Mostly they cut from hi-res. Abbey Road certainly don't cut from CDs. The arm and cartridge aren't state of the art these days but are there to do a specific job and not produce audiophile sound. In fact the likes of GZ even. don't cut from a CD or CD master unless that is what they are given. Even Acoustic Sounds (aka Chad Kassem) use a cheap and discontinued Shure 97 cartridge on their 1200Gs to compare original pressings with their own cuts, believe it or not. Most records aren't sold to people with £2000 moving coils so why bother? Not sure why they don't use one of the current AT95 models however. I can see pros wanting changeable stylus and reasonable cost of replacement. Of course this doesn't mean there isn't more information in the groove that a better cartridge can reveal. In my view hi-res digital to LP sounds better than down sampled to 16/44.1 for CD if done right. Abbey Road have fff'd up royally in the past like cutting The Beatles Stereo from 24/44.1 files.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 12:16:19 GMT
So, it all comes out - possibly.. Records cut from CD's I kid you not and an SME S2 Improved arm with Stanton cartridge (681EEE at one time) used for playing back the acetate on a test cut... And people still pay twenty to thirty quid a shot for LP's...
So what up with the S2 Improved arm? I cant think of any other arm as good for the job. Stanton 681EEE is a brilliant little cartridge. I will admit though that i deeply regret buying new records so much so that i have sold them all bar 28. As soon as i can locate mint 1st issues the rest will be gone. New records are SHITE
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Post by dsjr on May 28, 2022 15:26:48 GMT
I never criticised anything there, just expressed surprise at what the gent said. the SME and 681EEE may well be left over from the 70's and styli were available at least until recently. Cartridge is a bit dull though, although 'we' used these instead of the V15 III back in the day (lovers of the Transcriptor Fluid Arm used the ADC XLM instead which I still have a huge soft spot for (VLM in my Dual currently, but it's too 'nice' for the thunderboxes and my now awful hearing*).
* This is where measurements are invaluable, as they tell the audiologist and ENT specialists exactly what's wrong and hopefully how to fix it. This can't be done by guesswork or opinion. I've done an inverse eq on my headphones to hear what I'm missing now and it's incredible - and painfully sad for me to discover this..
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Post by Westie on May 28, 2022 15:31:09 GMT
I saw someone the other day that they could hear 8khz but not 9khz. Surely they meant 18 and 19? Hearing doesn’t drop that far, does it?
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Post by Westie on May 28, 2022 15:34:22 GMT
Just tested mine. I can hear 16khz but not 17. A year or so ago, I could hear 17khz.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 19:07:28 GMT
I never criticised anything there, just expressed surprise at what the gent said. the SME and 681EEE may well be left over from the 70's and styli were available at least until recently. Cartridge is a bit dull though, although 'we' used these instead of the V15 III back in the day (lovers of the Transcriptor Fluid Arm used the ADC XLM instead which I still have a huge soft spot for (VLM in my Dual currently, but it's too 'nice' for the thunderboxes and my now awful hearing*). * This is where measurements are invaluable, as they tell the audiologist and ENT specialists exactly what's wrong and hopefully how to fix it. This can't be done by guesswork or opinion. I've done an inverse eq on my headphones to hear what I'm missing now and it's incredible - and painfully sad for me to discover this.. The TRANSCRIPTOR fluid arm is actually the lowest mass arm you can buy. I used one with the ADC '26' which has an insainly high Compliance which was virtually unusable in most arms, wasnt even at home with the MAYWARE, i ended up using the ADC '220X' Block in that. I feel that the '3009/10/12' were the best arm they made, what came after wasnt any better in my view. Just trends you know. The Improved version of the '3009' i just like more than the older version. They came out around 1972. As for the SHURE carts. I spent a lot of time with them. I will always stick with the .M75ED/2' its' my absolute fav, much prefer it to the 'V15/III'. The '75' just has something about it.
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