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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 16:16:26 GMT
Jeez, I hope you never think that about me lol. You wouldnt have an Alpha 9 if you were a flat erfer
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Post by rudi on Apr 28, 2020 15:30:45 GMT
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Post by André on May 6, 2024 1:15:21 GMT
ACOUSTIC ENERGY 'AE-1' although the 'AE-2' were my fav & are one of the nicest looking speakers CHARIO 'HIPER' amongst the loads of other small speakers they made CASTLE ACOUSTICS 'CLYDE' I have a pair, no good for bright detailed fan boys tho but you can listen to these all day long IMF 'SUPER COMPACT' RAM '100' B&W 'DM12' DIESIS 'SOLITAIRE' Great, one of my first speakers VISONIK DAVID made a whole bunch of baby speakers MORDAUNT SHORT 'MS100 GOLD' Cheap but goodies KEF 'CRESTA 1' the last cheap tiny version they made say about 10 year ago. I though they sounded great
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2024 1:43:56 GMT
It’s been quite a long time since I used small speakers. Sure, I just bought the Petites, but that was just for nostalgia. I think my room and listening distance work against them
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Post by Southall on May 6, 2024 1:53:47 GMT
ACOUSTIC ENERGY 'AE-1' although the 'AE-2' were my fav & are one of the nicest looking speakers CHARIO 'HIPER' amongst the loads of other small speakers they made CASTLE ACOUSTICS 'CLYDE' I have a pair, no good for bright detailed fan boys tho but you can listen to these all day long IMF 'SUPER COMPACT' RAM '100' B&W 'DM12' DIESIS 'SOLITAIRE' Great, one of my first speakers VISONIK DAVID made a whole bunch of baby speakers MORDAUNT SHORT 'MS100 GOLD' Cheap but goodies KEF 'CRESTA 1' the last cheap tiny version they made say about 10 year ago. I though they sounded great Agreed on the KEF Cresta 1. I had a pair around a year ago. Nice sound, and not harsh either. I think they were made around 2001. S.
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Post by André on May 6, 2024 2:13:29 GMT
That long ago? Blimey i lost time
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Post by André on May 6, 2024 2:34:28 GMT
It’s been quite a long time since I used small speakers. Sure, I just bought the Petites, but that was just for nostalgia. I think my room and listening distance work against them Im the reverse going into a smaller room. I might even end up letting the KEF's go & using the Tiny CASTLE's again, im not fussed, got someone who wants the KEF's anyway, but ive always preferred small speakers as long as they are efficient.
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2024 9:16:18 GMT
The thing is, in a smaller room, small speakers can often sound way better than bigger ones. For me, it was just as enjoyable and arguably more “vital”.
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Post by André on May 6, 2024 9:42:27 GMT
The thing is, in a smaller room, small speakers can often sound way better than bigger ones. For me, it was just as enjoyable and arguably more “vital”. Your right & i often wonder how the bass sounds like it does from a small speaker in a small room. Im no room acoustics specialist but its deffo the room influence.
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Post by dsjr on May 6, 2024 10:29:27 GMT
Small speakers have no low bass and what little they do have, especially over-eq's active types, have masses of distortion down there. Got to say I miss high quality low bass whenever I hear small boxes, although the Diamond 7.2SE's port-it up a bit (I've had to put some port bungs (with small central 'holes') in (from Swanndeals on eBay). There's a kind oif effortless quality that proper big speakers of quality have an dlong ago, I found that the nice compromise for UK rooms (typical buiild as well as size) was from a two cubic foot box with 8" or so driver in it (doesn't have to be a BC1/104ab kinbd of thing either).
Here's me, resigning myself before I walk away completely from it all, to maybe go to a small speaker (current look-out is the Beolab 4000 'lozenge shaped' ally boxes) which wasn't as 'eq'd in the bass as the pencil or slim column models were.
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Post by André on May 6, 2024 10:45:16 GMT
Apart from not being a fan of low end bass the fact is you cannot have it all ways with big speakers as you cant with little ones, Big one will have to sacrifice higher frequencies as small will have to sacrifice low end, but with small speakers you can retain the higher frequencies but add a small sub to create the lower. I say small speakers are win win.
Audiophile Duck Eggs will not entertain subs cos that what the these people are Duck eggs
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Post by dsjr on May 6, 2024 11:18:22 GMT
How do big speakers sacrifice high frequencies? Not at all in my experience and I've known some biggies in my time Rather than prat around with some knackered old Neats (I appreciate nostalgia here though), here's a possible system - basic source vinyl or digital if not too audiophool, a good working Linn LK1 or even a Quad 33 as it has band limiting and filters to help eq and a pair of these, tested subjectively and with measurenents - I'm getting to like this reviewer here as he seems to be able to tie the two methods together well - www.audioappraisal.com/edifier-mr4-active-studio-monitors-reviewed/£110 in black or white FFS!!!! they're really not bad at all and look ten times the price. I type this chuckling as Harbeth are about to launch their small NLE1 dsp active monitors at the German show. They're raving about what dsp can do as well as good class D amps and are apparently using the dsp like heck to get the best on-axis response possible it seems, but you can bet yer effin' dollar they'll cost thousands retail and seriously, exactly how much better than these would they *really* be? Not several grand's worth I'm sure where an established Neumann KH80, also with DSP costs £850pr from Thomann (Genelecs too, but their models confuse me)
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Post by André on May 6, 2024 11:28:20 GMT
Ive never had a Mid/High frequency sound as good with a big speaker than i have with a small so my thinking is aways big speaker dont give what small do just my findings
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2024 14:57:09 GMT
How do big speakers sacrifice high frequencies? Not at all in my experience and I've known some biggies in my time Rather than prat around with some knackered old Neats (I appreciate nostalgia here though), here's a possible system - basic source vinyl or digital if not too audiophool, a good working Linn LK1 or even a Quad 33 as it has band limiting and filters to help eq and a pair of these, tested subjectively and with measurenents - I'm getting to like this reviewer here as he seems to be able to tie the two methods together well - www.audioappraisal.com/edifier-mr4-active-studio-monitors-reviewed/£110 in black or white FFS!!!! they're really not bad at all and look ten times the price. I type this chuckling as Harbeth are about to launch their small NLE1 dsp active monitors at the German show. They're raving about what dsp can do as well as good class D amps and are apparently using the dsp like heck to get the best on-axis response possible it seems, but you can bet yer effin' dollar they'll cost thousands retail and seriously, exactly how much better than these would they *really* be? Not several grand's worth I'm sure where an established Neumann KH80, also with DSP costs £850pr from Thomann (Genelecs too, but their models confuse me) I don’t know if this will make sense but my take on it is to do with listening distance. Small speakers in near-field locations seem to give you more of a “macro lens” experience. Bigger speakers only work for me at a greater distance, otherwise the sound doesn’t seem to gel. Sit further back and you get the scale, but not the vitality of the smaller speaker up-close. Not sure if that will ring true or others but it’s kinda how it is for me.
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Post by Westie on May 6, 2024 15:03:24 GMT
Slightly deviating here but I’ve always wanted a huge room and massive speakers. The thing is, I’d have damaged my ears within weeks.
I don’t know whether I’ve come to my senses or just grown up, but I no longer care about having a full-scale, live volumes system.
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